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Vampire Diaries exec producer Julie Plec told fans that by the end of the season 2 finale, they’d know this show has no shortage of directions it can go in — and she wasn’t lying. EW caught up with her after tonight’s East Coast airing to talk about the hour’s big twists and where we’re headed come fall. If you haven’t yet watched the finale, come back to us when you’re ready. We cover it all.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So I guessed that Klaus’ blood would be the cure for Damon’s werewolf bite, because I knew Damon couldn’t die. But it never occurred to me that Stefan would end up becoming Klaus’ wingman in exchange. How long have you known the season would end with Klaus and Stefan teaming up?
JULIE PLEC: Quite a long time. Look, in the same way that the last two seasons have been a very thick Damon journey as he’s come to terms with his humanity and the things that he hates most about himself, now Stefan, who has been struggling against the thing he hates most about himself from his past, is confronted with that. He’s sort of bitch-slapped by his own addiction, so to speak. And now he sacrificed the thing that he needed the most, which was his sense of strength and free will and will power over this problem that he has.
He had been drinking Elena’s blood to build up a tolerance to human blood, but clearly not enough.
There is moderation, and then there is sustained abuse. I think we just watched the beginnings of Stefan crossing over into that.
I loved that scene of him on the floor. It was like he was a bad dog who’d just devoured five entire bags of treats.
Probably Paul Wesley’s happiest day on set was getting to dive back into that side of Stefan and know that it is the beginning of a big journey for him and for that character to start really returning to the road that has caused him the most grief in his heart and in his mind for 145 years.
I was going to ask you what Paul’s reaction was to that twist.
It’s so funny. He sat down with me [earlier this season] and said, “I need to have a really serious conversation with you.” And I was like, “Uh huh.” And he said, “Stefan’s great as the hero, and he’s so admirable and he’s so honorable, and I love that about him. But as an actor, I feel like it would be great if we could dirty him up a little.” And I was like, “Uh huh.” And he looked at me, and he’s like, “You’re already doing this, aren’t you?” And I said, “Uh huh.” [Laughs] It was so great. Just as he was starting to feel like Stefan can do no wrong, we had been creating this almost heightened sense of heroism for Stefan for months knowing where we were going with it.
Katherine was trying to make Elena feel bad there at the end, like Stefan had given up his life with her to save Damon. But Elena can’t be angry, right, because she’d spent all season trying to sacrifice herself — and her future with Stefan — to save her family and friends?
Katherine was just being a little naughty bitch and stirring the pot. I love the look on Katherine’s face when she’s like, “Are you sure you care?” It’s so deliciously amused by the predicament, like the cat that ate the canary. She’s loving this. Elena, my god, if anything it won’t be anger — it will be guilt.
Katherine delivering the cure to Damon — we’re supposed to believe she did love him, on some level, as she said?
I think on whatever level Katherine is capable of caring about anyone other than herself. In her own way — more overtly and deeply with Stefan, but quietly with Damon — she let both of those boys into her heart just a tiny bit. One more than the other, obviously. Giving Damon his chance at life, that’s a very unKatherine-like thing to do. I love that she did it. While by no means is she a good girl now — she’s still looking out for No. 1 — she took a detour off her escape route to give him back what she took from him at the beginning of the season when she said to him, “It’s always been Stefan, I never loved you.” She was fixing that wound a little bit, which I think is pretty great.
So we know Katherine is a runner, and that Klaus told Stefan he’s going to help him catch her. Does that mean some of season 3 will take place outside of Mystic Falls?
I have no idea. That is a question to be discussed ad nauseam once we get back into [the writers room]. But definitely, she’s got her freedom, which she’s wanted for awhile, and we’ll see how long it lasts.
Moving on to the Damon deathbed scene — that was beautiful not only because it harkened back to Damon holding Rose in his bed as she lay dying, but also because, at least in my mind, you let Elena and Damon have a real moment without her going as far as saying “I love you, too.”
Elena, as we know, is one of the most compassionate people on the show — if not the most compassionate. It’s her own Achilles’ heel, how much she cares about others. So the extent to which she cares about certain people is always going to be a struggle for her. In that moment, Damon needed her forgiveness and her love, and she needed to give it to him. It was very pure for her. There’s a lot that happened in that moment, and season 3 is gonna be about exploring what it means to her, what it means to Damon, and certainly what it means to the Damon-Elena-Stefan relationship.
Will Joseph Morgan (Klaus) and Daniel Gillies (Elijah) be upgraded to regular cast members next season?
All I can say to you is, as I’ve said before, these two actors are extraordinary, and the story of the Originals is probably longer than the Bible and we can’t wait to dig into it.
I’m thinking that Damon and Elena will have to try to find Elijah so he can help them get to Klaus and Stefan. It is safe to say, at least, that we’ll see Elijah again?
I personally think that the world would be a very sad place if The Vampire Diaries never saw Daniel Gillies as Elijah again. I love him. He’s amazing. Until we start talking creatively about season 3, that’s the best I can do.
On to Jeremy… So he can see dead people now? Or is it just his past girlfriends because Bonnie told the witch spirits she loved him so they’d help resurrect him?
All I can say about that is: As Bonnie was told when she was tapping into that kind of magic to do something that goes against the laws of nature, there will be consequences. We’re just getting a slight tease of what those consequences are. For her, the unimagined consequences were worth it. Now if Vicki and Anna end up sticking around and remaining in Jeremy’s world in whatever way it is that they’re appearing, then in addition to supernatural consequences, obviously, there’s gonna be some romantic consequences as well. We’re taking the love triangle to a whole ‘nother level. Without a doubt, this is a story that is teeing up for our audience a whole new element of what we’re going to be doing on this show.
I know how upset you and Kevin Williamson were to lose Anna in last year’s finale. I love that you found a way to bring both those characters back that was totally unexpected. Was that an idea that just came to someone as you were breaking the story for this episode?
No, we had that in our back pocket pretty much the whole year long.
Will Alaric move in with Jeremy and Elena now? That’s what I’m hoping.
I think that what we were saying at the end of the episode is, we’re teeing up a new dynamic that is a family dynamic between Alaric and Jeremy and Elena. I don’t know that he himself is ready for that as a character. He might say yes out of obligation, or yes out of an emotional attachment, or he might run for the hills. Who knows? But definitely it is a question that will be asked when we come back, which is, “Are you our new daddy?” [Laughs]
How long ago did you come up with that idea? Because we all thought when Alaric’s body was taken over by Klaus that it was Matt Davis’ great exit. It’s awesome that he survived that, of all things, and now he is, theoretically, hopefully, becoming a more integral part of the story.
In our heads, we wanted to start building that dynamic at the beginning of this season. As Alaric and Jenna’s relationship got stronger, we wanted to see a friendship brew between Alaric and Jeremy at least, if not the whole family. And then it was just one of the story lines that, unfortunately, each time we had to add a werewolf or a hybrid into the mix got shoved aside. We didn’t get to do it the way we wanted to. So this is like a new beginning for Alaric and a launching platform for his character going forward that will finally make use of the character in as many ways as we can — not just this one — because Matt Davis is so important to us and his portrayal of Alaric is so great. We really want to try to give him what he deserves, which is the character’s strong point of view and great journey, however it plays itself out.
Since Klaus’ blood can cure a werewolf bite on a vampire, I’m wondering what it can do for a werewolf. Is that something we’ll find out in season 3? Is there more to Klaus’ blood?
There’s got to be, I’m sure. The rules of the hybrid and all that comes with being the hybrid, we’ve just scratched the surface.
When did the idea for the hybrid come up?
Before we wrote a single page of season 2.
[EW laughs in amazement.]
Yeah. That was always the plan.
I’m assuming we’ll see Tyler next season.
Absolutely. The series regular family is returning in full effect. Hopefully, we’ll be able to really dig deeply into Tyler’s friendship and blossoming romantic interest in Caroline and her potential interest in him — and also the conflict maybe between the sheriff and the mayor once the mayor comes into the loop, and the lengths they’ll each go to protect their children and possibly try to keep their children away from each other.
Final question: Is there anything more you can tease about where Stefan and Klaus are headed?
The direct road to awesomeness. [Laughs] That’s all I can say. We all couldn’t be more excited — Joseph and Paul Wesley included — to tell those stories. It is exciting to us as writers. It’s exciting to them as actors. We’re very energized about Stefan’s new journey and how Klaus plays into that and how that’s all gonna turn out.










Awesome interview! Thanks Mandi!!! Love the part about Julie’s convo with Paul…absolutely BADASS finale. Where’s that recap Mandi???
agree! now folks, THATS how you do a season finale. so far, Vamp Diaries is 2 for 2 in that department. the scene with jerm sent chills down my spine and elena with damon made my black heart weep. good stuff.
Gottta say – I am new to VD mid-season and totally agree. These people can end a season. Dang!
I just loves vpd Stefan and elena are so cute
together I hope they stay together the show is
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Also, you just know with Stefan on the run with Klaus, that we are on the right track to some serious Delena drama. Sooooo stoked for that. I wasn’t sure how they were going to ever get Damon and Elena together with Sean still around, nut after the finale, I just know we’re gonna get that come season 3!!!! TVD FTW.
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couldnt agree more!!!!! im in love with sean, finally he is free!!!!!
WOW, the finale was EPIC! Stefan is interesting again. Elena is in love with the wrong man. Jer sees dead people. Eli is dead again. Klaus can’t be trusted. A-MAZ-ING!!!!!!!
oh yea u mean she is falling in love with the wrong mad
This show never fails to amaze me.
Never expected to see Vicky or Anna again. That last scene surprised me.
My guess: Jeremy can see dead vampires or dead people killed by vampires. He’s the one who is going to help Elena and Damon track Stefan.
Awesome finale. I agree that Alaric’s survival is kind of surreal but the show will never be the same if he dies. And I love that Elijah is staying as well.
I don’t like Stefan-the-reaper (I loooove broody Stefan) but the show must go on, right?
We didn’t see Matt at all, is he coming back?
TVD deserves an Emmy nomination. It would be a shame if the show gets overlooked again.
I wish they hadn’t killed off Jenna. The only thing I liked was the return of Vicki and Anna.
Omg what if Jeremy can see all the dead people including jenna? that would be cool
Jeremy got powers now, he has the whole Haley Joel-Osment thing going on, which for me was one of the three “FINALLY, THE WRITERS DID IT” anticipated moments I have, because I keep noticing how Jeremy’s always there, a good looking block of wood, while everyone has powers and has something kickass to do. The second anticipated moment was when Stefan finally became a LEGIT BADASS. Thank you, TVD writers. Stefan, like Jeremy, is bland. While Stefan is quite noble, he’s also as dull as a knife without a whetstone. Klaus is the whetstone who will sharpen Stefan and turn him into a kickass vampire. I do however, appreciate Stefan’s willingness to save Damon, at any cost. Even if it meant having to forge a deal with the devil himself, Klaus. The third anticipated moment of mine is the Delena kiss. FINALLY. Finally. We get to have a real kiss between Damon and Elena. The two years of waiting and pining for that chemistry to materialize and executed in the most romantic way possible. The dialogue that played out when Elena was with Damon in bed teared me up the most. Damon said “You should have met me in 1864. You would have liked me.” That part of Damon, where he yearned to gain so much of Elena’s affections, where he reminisced and looked back on his old self, before he became a vampire, just broke my heart. He wanted his humanity back. But he found that with Elena. And when Elena replied ” I like you now. Just the way you are.” That made me remember what Katherine said to Elijah in the flashback scene: “It’s only true love if it is returned.”
Well said Schaden!
yeah, you summed up everything i felt about the finale perfectly. mad props!
ITA Schaden!! Very well put.
Please people, Damon and Elena will stay at the “like” level. It will always be about Stefan. Kev and Julie can’t allow that.
Unless you’re one of the writers you can’t say that. Speak for yourself.
I agree with spektor. No one can speak for the writers.
Actually, the writers DID speak for themselves in an EW interview earlier this season and said that Stefan/Elena will always be the true romantic focal point of the show. However, I don’t think there’s any way Elena won’t fall in love with Damon as well next season. She’ll just always love Stefan more.
Sorry Pisces228, it still doesn’t guarantee that stelena will be endgame. I know Kevin’s record with shows. He doesn’t always go for the predictable choice. I think it is too premature to celebrate the endgame of your couple.
yes,,damon-elena it’s just like care each other, not love. real and romantic love is stefan-elena. It’s always gonna be stefan. You are should look that. Damon-elena (no chemistry). I like ian, but looked the story, guys..
Nina, that is just your opinion. Some people see love with Damon and Elena. It is all about how people choose to interpret the actions of the characters in the show. Also, Pisces228, Kevin also said in an interview people do not always end up with their soulmate. So yes, the writers have spoken in more than one way.
Um, to the scared (and last remaining) steleba peeps. Stelena is boring, useless and stale. Delena has chemistry, u might wanna pop that bubble ur trying so hard to stay in. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but don’t throw out stupid sh*t. Kevin is known, Pacey and Joey and Buffy and Spike is all I gotta say. This is Vampire Diaries not Stelena Diaries. Ian is the highest paid actor on the show. Be afraid stelena cuz we outnumber u and we haven’t even gotten started yet. Word.
You might want to think about who’s doing the writing. After all another show of KW’s was Dawson’s Creek.Did Joey end up with Dawson? NO!
Holy crap you GENIUS! My thoughts all over!!
I new that Jeremy would see dead people! I cant remember what book or movie had someone than coming back to life and being able to talk to the dead!
That was absolutely excellent. Thank you so much to everyone at TVD. Kevin and Julie: You guys are fantastic writers.
I cannot wait to see what kinds of fun Stefan and Klaus have! They’re such an unlikely, yet interesting pair. Also, the development of the Damon/Elena relationship is finally here! Thank god.
I’m really liking this show, but give some love to Nikita. That finale was so great, and I’m nervous about whether it’ll get picked up or not.
I agree! Two great hours of tv!
Great interview Mandi, you asked some awesome questions. Your so good I think you gave them some ideas!
Did jeremy drink anna’s blood in the season one finale when he tried to overdose? And wouldn’t that now make him a vampire? Or am I not remembering correctly?
He may have (I can’t remember for sure), but you have to die with vamp blood in your system. And it does eventually work its way out of your system.
He drank her blood, he was dying but Stefan brought him back to life with a double slap. Someone was supposed to turn into a vampire in that episode and it turned out to be Barbie.
He didn’t take enough pills to die, so Anna’s blood actually healed him!
i seriously thought that there was no way they could top last week’s episode, even though last week’s ep felt a little off to me. but man am i glad to see anna! better than last season’s finale!
the only thing that would have made it better would have been if it was a 2 hour finale! I love this show
Great interview. I’m just upset that we now have to sit through a season of Damon and Elena sucking face.
Is it just me or did Stefan just get 1000 times hotter. The look he gives the girl before he bites her had me swooning on my couch. I’m looking forward to seeing him go ‘bad’ next season.
I hope Bonnie doesn’t kill Jeremy now that he can see his ex’s lol. More Bonnie and Caroline!
Damon and Elena sucking face upsets you? Yeah, that’s how I felt for two whole seasons of Stefan and Elena.
Ha! Same here…
i am so glad i am not the onlyone who was a little over the whole Stefan Elena relationship. Damon is way hotter and you can tell by his emotions that he truly loves Elena. Not only had Damon developed so much this season, its about time Stephan steps up to the plate and gets a hold of himself. with Damon, he can drink human blood, be himself and still be caring and love Elena. however, Stephan… he just is not himself. it was like he stunted all of what made him him by depriving himself. maybe in season 3 we can find out who the real Stephan is. It really will be a test of true love to see who Elena will pick once there true selves are revealed.
I think Damon’s love for Elena is too selfish to be true love. Forcing her to drink his blood was not the only time he has tried to take away her free will. Remember when he tried to mind-control her so that she would kiss him in season 1? He doesn’t have respect for her and is prone to losing control when she disappoints him. How can you have a relationship with someone who’ll snap your brother’s neck when you don’t give him what he wants?
er , that’s kind of the thing. Damon is soo imperfect and through every episode, Elena shapes him up little by little. Remember when he told her he loved her and then compels her to forget it because he says he “shouldnt be selfish with her” and that she “belongs with Stefan” ? That’s true love . It’s not that he doesnt have respect for her- because the truth is, he doesnt have respect for anybody since that’s the kind of person he is. But the fact that he cares for her even more then he does for himself and was willing to die for her is the highest peak of love that you can pull out from someone like Damon. He was sorry for killing Jer.
I think ur slightly outnumbered about delena “sucking face”. Most everyone else loves it.
Stefan on the road to AWESOMENESS.. honey, he was already there! YAY!!
The DE kiss was platonic Nonromantic kiss goodbye. Kinda skeezy given he outright attacked her. WTHeck was she thinking climbing into bed with him, anything could’ve happened and she’d have been powerless.
Stupid. Season3, I hope Bonnie is the one to set his toosh on fire should he try and force himself on her or anyone else again like he did Andie Starr. Srsly, Damon going after his BROTHERS GIRLFRIEND after such an incrediable act of Stefans love – Damon doesn’t deserve to be saved.